As a guy not ahamed to say he works for sysco – a sales rep even – I, and my co-workers I might add, have never sold this product as being pork from a place called White Marble Farms – it is as you said a brand like Certified Angus Beef or Heinz ketchup – no one thinks the ketchup comes from the house of some guy named Heinz but some people knowing the quality of heinz ketchup rather than just some store brand will sell it as Heinz Ketchup. The same hods true for White Marble farms – it is a premium product as those who have tried it have said – so rather than selling a pork loin – you sell a White Marble Farms pork loin.
First of all, I’d like to thank you Chip for commenting and doing so in your own voice. I believe that genuine discussion by real people is the way that we’ll all really come to understand more about how the current system works and what we can do to make it better for everyone.
I completely believe that Sysco sales reps don’t misrepresent the nature of White Marble Farms. The product’s name and marketing is subtly misleading enough — given the current context of high end restaurant food — that restaurants and diners will jump to the erroneous conclusion without being overtly lied to.
I do think it’s important to note that Sysco discounts the price of the pork to restaurants that print the brand name on the menu. Up until now, when the brand or farm name of meat or produce has been printed on the menu at a high-end restaurant, the name is typically the name of a specific farm (i.e., Chino Farms) or a group of independent farms working in similar methods (Niman Ranch). Diners (and, as mentioned in Bonnie Azab Powell’s article, chefs) simply aren’t ready to intuit that that the brand name in front of the meat means that it is a select product from one of the world’s largest factory meat integrators (Cargill).
A big part of what I’m trying to accomplish (and I think what Ms. Powell is trying to accomplish) is to get the word out that Sysco/Cargill have co-opted the cultural meaning of meat descriptions on menus, so people can’t rely on just seeing the name of a farm to mean that the meat came from a given farm.
I think it’s been a slippery slope. When reading “Niman Ranch pork chop”, I believe most people think it came from a specific farm called Niman Ranch. When they find out it doesn’t, there’s a bit of a saving grace because it comes from a kind of co-op that came out of a specific farm called Niman Ranch, and all the farms are independent operations in the spirit of the farm that it’s named after. OK.
When reading “White Marble Farms pork chop”, most people think the pork chop comes from a farm called White Marble Farms. Or, if they’re familiar with Niman, perhaps a co-operative of small farms. They’re dismayed to learn that it’s a pastoral-sounding brand name for industrial meat from Cargill. Of course, since the restaurant owners and chefs are similarly unaware, the diner probably won’t find out until they Google it.
There are other forms of “menu-ese” that are I think problematic, like American Kobe Beef, so it’s not like Sysco/Cargill are unique in using misdirection to build their sales. But White Marble Farms is, I think, particularly effective in using the context of fine-dining menus to mislead diners as to the provenance of their food. And, because of that, is particularly insidious.
Ultimately, if people really want to understand what they’re eating, they’re going to have to go visit the farms and processors, or buy food from people and businesses — whether big Whole Foods-style companies or small enterprises like ours — who do visit the farms and communicate first-hand information about how the food is produced, from the land to the plate. If Sysco wanted to be a part of that, they could easily do it. But they don’t, even though the brand name White Marble Farms hints, misleadingly, that they are.
Great post, Jay!
To me, White Marble Farms is not a name that’s okay to use as it implies something it’s not. That simple. Why not instead add the word Industrial to the beginning of any Cargill/Sysco food product? At least, then, the label would be true.
This is exactly why people distrust corporate America. As places like the Linkery go to great lengths to explain the origins of their ingredients, I’m sure you’ll see Sysco following suit, offering pre-printed “fact sheets” detailing the bogus history of White Marble Farms, probably with a mythical Juan Valdez-type figure as the family patriarch.
Hey i need to know how white marble is formed and were its found so any one who can help me with this would be greatly apesated
To me; It is very important to know the history of the product one is selling to better serve one’s customer. However, it does take second place to the quality of what one is selling. Personally, the history takes a back seat compared to a superior pork product. I have always used Premium Standard farms in our meat case. I bought a case of White Marble Farms to try the difference… and there is, not significantly, yet there is enough to know that it is a superior product… if that is the case… what is the problem? do you need to prove its history and put the product down because it came from Sysco or another major supplier? its merely a better product thats really all i need to tell the consumer… Sysco can fabricate all they want just as long as the product is always consistant and exactly the same tenderness… thats why ill use it in our stores… because right now… thats what i think is the best…
The Pigs are raised on Farms, just like the Niman Ranch Pigs, they are raised by a certain standard, As someone else pointed out, like Certified Angus Beef, if of any of you took the time to research instead of automatically bash corpaorate america, the farms have to raise a particular breed of hog on a certain diet. And then yes, they are harvested and packaged. If you think the good people at Niman are more humane think again. I doubt they are petting the hogs on the head and rocking them to sleep right before they slaughter them and hand butcher them. companies like cargill, SYSCO and even nima got to be as big as they are by doing what they do better than others. SYSCO does not make one product they are distributors, tey have produced for them to their specs. SYSCO sells niman ranch as well. and if you knew half of what goes on in the food industry, you’d be shocked.
By the way I work for SYSCO, and it is funny to read this rhetoric from people about corporate america. Do you know how much better off our world would be if people opened their eyes to reality and if every restaurant used just one distributor for all their needs. Besides the profit side, which as a capitialist makes me smile. instead of having 6-7 different trucks arrving everyday to deliver products there would be only one. Imagine the fuel savings and the positive impact on the environment that would have. Boo hoo the little guy, it is not the fat getting fatter, it makes sense.
Hey formerchef dude now working for sysco. Niman Ranch wrote the book on how to treat animals with care before bringing them to harvest. All of their animals have access to outdoors and are treated in a humane manner. Hard for you to believe, I know, but true. Sysco would drop their shorts to be able to sell Niman product. Problem is, they would want to put there stupid white cube label on it….
Kudos to the Linkery for having integrity…
Long live the medium sized guy!
i love it…there are more ‘former chefs’ working for sysco and us foods than are real chefs working in restaurants. one supplier? that is the most ignorant statement i have ever heard concerning the sourcing of food. white marble farms is a hoax and joke. i’m so thrilled the dining public has more awareness thanks to posts like these…any ‘chef’ should be ashamed to sell such a product…hogs grown indoors? fed gmo’d corn and soybeans and god knows what else…sounds like a great product!
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Niman did not write the book on Humane Animal Care, Certified Humane Raised and & Handling (HFAC) did. Third party audit between the USDA and ASPCA. There is no better program in the country. End of story.